Chemistry Department FAQ
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| Fulfilling CHM 116 lab requirements through CHM 180 |
Students who have lecture credit but not lab credit, are quite common:
The office staff can set up a special section of CHM 180 (1 credit) in which the student can enroll. The grade they receive will be based solely on the work they do in the lab. At passing this CHM 180 class, the student can request that the department inform the registrar to grant full CHM 116 credit on the transcript. |
| Taking CHM 242 without CHM 241 |
Generally, we try to be as loose as we can with pre-reqs, but we don't typically allow CHM 242 without CHM 241. The concern here is that there are very important skills and concepts that are covered in CHM 241 lab that would not be covered in CHM 231. This becomes a safety issue if a student were to enter into CHM 242 without the proper training. For the same reason, we generally turn down students who request to take CHM 241 and 242 concurrently. (DAL 12/2024) |
| Testing out and waiving classes: Advanced placement (AP) credit |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for scores of 3, 4, or 5 on the AP tests. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the College Board send score reports to the university. When Grand Valley receives the AP scores (usually in early July), students who have earned the appropriate score will be awarded credit. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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Students often request notebook reviews in summer before they have arrived on campus. It is recommended to never give a pre-req waiver until the notebook review is complete. If the student wants the waiver, they can send the notebook by mail.(DAL 6/2024) Julie Henderleiter has taken over the review now that Blair has retired. From conversations with her, it is clear that the main consideration is whether students have enough experience with real glassware and other lab equipment to jump right into CHM 221 and CHM 246. Therefore, if a student does not receive lab credit, they should take CHM 128 in the Fall and pick up CHM 241 in Winter or better, CHM 245/246 the following year. (DAL 7/2025) |
| Study abroad courses |
Students who study abroad sometimes wish to take Chemistry classes at a foreign institution, and receive credit for a GVSU class. Standard procedure dictates that the Chemistry Department makes the decision about such credits. The rationale for such decisions is similar that used for judging courses from U.S. institutions:
Beyond these general guidelines, it is not possible to summarize how to make these judgments. These decisions are handled by the Associate Chair for Student Affairs (in consultation with relevant instructors if necessary). (DAL 6/2024) |
| Testing out and waiving classes: Can CHM 391 be waived for majors? |
The Department feels that Junior Seminar is an important part of the curriculum for all CHM, BIC and CHMX majors, and is therefore not generally waived. Under very rare circumstances, it may be possible to make alternative arrangements, for instance:
In such cases, it may be possible to waive CHM 391 on the condition that the student is required to a) attend several senior seminars and b) take US 301 Internship and Job Search Strategies. This exception should not be advertised to students, and is subject to approval by both the Associate Chair of Student Affairs and the CHM 391 instructor. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Testing out and waiving classes: CLEP |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for successful completion of College Level Examination Program (CLEP) exams. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the score report be sent to the university. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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| Testing out and waiving classes: International baccalaureate (IB) |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for scores of 3, 4, or 5 on the AP tests. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the College Board send score reports to the university. When Grand Valley receives the AP scores (usually in early July), students who have earned the appropriate score will be awarded credit. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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| University of New England online biochemistry UNE 1050--is this course equivalent to CHM 232 or 461? |
Over the years, I have had several requests to use the online lecture only biochemistry class UNE 1050 from the University of New England as a course equivalent for CHM 461. Typically, these requests have come from BMS majors who need to take or repeat CHM 461 to graduate, but they have moved away, or they have some good reason they don't want to come to campus. More recently, the PA program has inquired about using this class to help students fulfill pre-requisites before they arrive at GVSU. Because it does not have a lab, it cannot be equivalent to CHM 232. For the record, we accept this class as CHM 461 because:
I have been reluctant to establish an official course equivalency, because we are not keen to have CHM or BIC majors take this class. We generally bring all it on a case-by-case basis (we use the notation "for this student only"). (Dave Leonard 3/2025) |
| Online labs |
As a general rule, the Chemistry Department administration feels that in-person hands-on laboratory learning is superior than online laboratory training. The department has worked to minimize the likelihood of students transferring online lab credits to GVSU, mainly by eliminating blanket transfer equivalencies from schools that heavily utilize such approaches. There are some nuances to consider:
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| Transfer of courses from schools on trimesters or quarters |
Sometimes students transfer from a school on trimester or quarters, and the equivalencies can be tricky. The first trimester of a 3 trimester general chemistry sequence is not generally good enough to get CHM 115 credit, especially . Two trimesters might equal CHM 115 and three might be CHM 115/116. |
| Replacing CHM 230/CHM 232 grades with CHM 234 |
In Fall 2025, we decided that if students take CHM 234 after having previously taken CHM 232 or CHM 230, the CHM 234 grade (and credit) will replace the older classes. Advisors asked if it would be possible to keep the older courses if a student requested it (for instance if they needed the credit to graduate). We asked the CHM 234 instructors to put the following statement on their syllabi: If a student previously took CHM 230 or CHM 232 and completes CHM 234, the CHM 234 grade will automatically replace the grade from the earlier course (CHM 230 or CHM 232). As with normal course repeats, the credit will only be awarded for the repeat class (CHM 234). In some cases, a student may wish to retain credit (and the grade) for both classesfor instance, if they need the credit to graduate. In such cases, the student can petition the Chemistry Department by contacting Prof. Dave Leonard [email protected] We inquired about how this would be implemented, and Bill Widmaier responded on 12/17: Were planning to replace the 230 and 232 grades with the 234 grades automatically&actually manually, but it will be automatic as far as the student is concerned. Regarding the retaining of credit for both classes, that is an unusual circumstance when courses are considered repeats, but not unheard of. Those requests would go through Cathy Buyarski in the Provosts Office for approval |
| Late withdrawals |
Students have a variety of reasons they might ask for a late withdrawal. They may act like it is routine and "just requires your signature", but in fact, the department has a set of criteria that must be met before we sign off on it. In order to make it easier on faculty, we have a made a form that helps us collect the appropriate information. Please tell students: The Chemistry Department has a special form that helps us decide whether we can approve a late withdrawal (it is not automatic). Please follow the link below and answer all of the questions. It is important to continue going to class until you receive a written response. The University has a deadline of 5 pm on the last day of classes, so it is important to submit the department form in advance of that. https://www.gvsu.edu/chemhandbook/cms-form-edit.htm?formId=02D1B32F-B9E3-E3EE-0D9AEBA9359DC44E As the instructor, you do not need to do anything else, but I may contact you for information about grades, attendance etc. If you have a strong opinion for or against the withdrawal, you can pass that on to me as well. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Transfer of General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry |
Debbie Herrington and George McBane had this policy about transfer equivalencies for General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry: Two semester sequences that are taken by Chemistry majors (or perhaps engineering/pre-med etc) at a reputable U.S. institution and that have a lab are generally going to be good for transfer credit. (DAL 6/2024) |
| What happens if transfer courses have good content match, but the number of credits doesn't match |
In the case of a course from another university that is a good match content-wise for a GVSU course, but has more credits than the GVSU course: the student gets credit for the GVSU class, and additional CHM General credits. In the case of a course from another university that is a good match content-wise for a GVSU course, but has fewer credits than the GVSU course: the student gets credit for the GVSU class on their transcript, but the class is listed with the lower number of credits. Example. A general chemistry class from Purdue (3 credits) was determined to be a good fit for CHM 116 (5 credits). The students transcript would list CHM 116 (3 credits). |
| What is the American Chemical Society policy regarding virtual/remote lab experiences? |
Virtual/at-home/simulated labs can supplement but not replace in person experiences for the foundational and in-depth courses. Chemistry is an empirical science that requires the safe and effective physical manipulation of materials, equipment, and instrumentation. This first-person experiential expertise cannot be developed solely through simulations. Remote Lab Experiences
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| Can the last 30 credits at GVSU requirement be waived? |
The university requires that the last 30 credits towards an undergraduate degree be earned at GVSU. Students who interrupt those last 30 credits must request a waiver of this policy. For instance:
The University is relatively generous about this, but it is best not to advertise it until other options have been exhausted. The form (titled Request for Residency Waiver Form ), with appropriate signatures, is then submitted to the Student Academic Success Center in 200 Student Services for a decision. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Can the SWS requirement be waived? |
The university requires 2 SWS courses completed with a grade of C or higher (not C-). It is no longer necessary to have one of the SWS classes in the major. I know of no case where this requirement has been waived. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Automatic dropping of students who do not have pre-requisite |
If you give someone an pre-requisite override, they won't be warned or dropped later. Students get the warning/drop when they don't finish (or fail) a pre-requisite. Therefore, students need to get official transcripts from their other school only if they need it for their program. (Jennifer Glaab 7/20/18) |
| Parachute policy |
Students who struggle with CHM 115 can drop down to CHM 100 as part of a special "parachute" program. There is a Parachute information page and a Parachute sign-up page. The former can be found under "student forms" on the department website. It will be available at all times, and will be sent to all advisors (department and CLAS) to help make sure everyone understands the process. The sign-up page is not publicly available, but instructors can send a link to eligible students after they meet to discuss the program. By special arrangement with the registrar, this process is different from the normal late drop/add in several ways:
Procedure:
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| Grades for repeat courses |
When a student repeats a course, the grade they receive for the second attempt will replace the older grade. The older grade is still visible on the transcript, but it is no longer used to in the GPA calculation. There are several important considerations:
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