Chemistry Department FAQ
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| CHM 325 as a BIC elective substitution |
After a request from a student, I have decided that we will allow CHM 325 to serve as an elective for the BIC major. This class brings very valuable skills for those who wish to enter industry. I have also decided not to pursue the inclusion of this course in the list of electives in the catalog, but it makes sense to do so in the future if there are other changes being made. (DAL 2/2026) |
| Online labs |
As a general rule, the Chemistry Department administration feels that in-person hands-on laboratory learning is superior than online laboratory training. The department has worked to minimize the likelihood of students transferring online lab credits to GVSU, mainly by eliminating blanket transfer equivalencies from schools that heavily utilize such approaches. There are some nuances to consider:
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| Testing out and waiving classes: International baccalaureate (IB) |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for scores of 3, 4, or 5 on the AP tests. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the College Board send score reports to the university. When Grand Valley receives the AP scores (usually in early July), students who have earned the appropriate score will be awarded credit. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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| Testing out and waiving classes: Advanced placement (AP) credit |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for scores of 3, 4, or 5 on the AP tests. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the College Board send score reports to the university. When Grand Valley receives the AP scores (usually in early July), students who have earned the appropriate score will be awarded credit. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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Students often request notebook reviews in summer before they have arrived on campus. It is recommended to never give a pre-req waiver until the notebook review is complete. If the student wants the waiver, they can send the notebook by mail.(DAL 6/2024) Julie Henderleiter has taken over the review now that Blair has retired. From conversations with her, it is clear that the main consideration is whether students have enough experience with real glassware and other lab equipment to jump right into CHM 221 and CHM 246. Therefore, if a student does not receive lab credit, they should take CHM 128 in the Fall and pick up CHM 241 in Winter or better, CHM 245/246 the following year. (DAL 7/2025) |
| Testing out and waiving classes: CLEP |
As noted in the "Credit by Exam" webpage, the university will grant credit for successful completion of College Level Examination Program (CLEP) exams. In order to receive credit, the student must request that the score report be sent to the university. Each student who earns credit will receive an evaluation indicating the credit awarded. The following shows the current score/credit relationship for AP Chemistry:
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| Why do some students who wish to take CHM 127 and CHM 128 need a pre-requisite waiver even though they completed CHM 115? |
Before our lecture/lab split (CHM 115 to CHM 125/CHM 126 and CHM 116 to CHM 127/CHM128), the old combined course (CHM 116) had a prerequisite of CHM 115 (instead of CHM 125 and CHM 126). There are still a large number of students who took CHM 115 (before the split) and now wish to take CHM 127/128. This is particularly prevalent for students who wish to wish to take CHM 127/128 as a repeat of CHM 116 (sometimes years later). Because they took CHM 115, they need a pre-requisite waiver. The professional advisors have asked is we could have CHM 115 added to the pre-requisite for CHM 127 and CHM 128, something like this: CHM 127: Prerequisites: (CHM 125, CHM 126) or CHM 115, (MTH 122 or MTH 124 or MTH 125 or equivalent by placement or exam), and CHM 128 (may be taken concurrently). CHM 128: Prerequisites: (CHM 125, CHM 126) or CHM 115, and CHM 127 (CHM 127 may be taken concurrently). I looked into this and discovered that any change in pre-reqs requires a curriculum change proposal. This is not worth the effort, as the number of legacy students who took CHM 115 over the coming years will drop rapidly. (DAL 7/2026) |
| BIC major/CHM minor |
Can a BIC major get a minor in CHM? Yes, in fact all BIC majors automatically qualify for a CHM minor because all of the CHM minor requirements are required for the BIC major. While the requirements are automatically met, the minor is not automatically given--students must apply for it. Opinions differ as to the meaningfulness of such an addition, but the Biochemistry faculty voted to allow students to do this. Best practice is probably to not advertise or encourage this, but if a student insists, you can note that it is allowed. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Can BMS 250/251 serve in place of BMS 290/291 for the BIC major? |
Can BMS 250/251 serve in place of BMS 290/291 for the BIC major? Biochemists decided: "No, this course has minimal CHM pre-reqs and does not count for the BMS major". (DAL 6/2024) |
| Use of CHM electives in the Environmental and Sustainability Studies (ENS) major or minor |
Can students use of CHM electives in the Environmental and Sustainability Studies (ENS) minor? This question was posed to Prof. Amy McFarland, director of the ENS program. She replied "...happy to sub this course in for your Chem Major/ENS minor if needed". (DAL 7/2024) |
| Repeating a course more than once |
Current University policy states: "Repeating a course more than once is allowed only with the approval of the student's academic advisor. In cases when the course is not in the student's academic advisor's unit, approval to repeat the course must be approved by the appropriate unit head of the department where the course is offered." The Associate Chair of Student Affairs currently handles these requests when departmental approval is required. Students often request a permit through MyBanner, but this cannot be handled through the permit system. The student is directed to the Registration Repeat Limit Approval Form and once they have filled it out, they send it to the ACSA. These are almost always approved, but we usually request a quick conversation to find out why the student struggled in the first two attempts, and to point them toward tutoring resources. Once the ACSA signs it, it can be forwarded to the Registrar by email. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Transfer of General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry |
Debbie Herrington and George McBane had this policy about transfer equivalencies for General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry: Two semester sequences that are taken by Chemistry majors (or perhaps engineering/pre-med etc) at a reputable U.S. institution and that have a lab are generally going to be good for transfer credit. (DAL 6/2024) |
| Double majors: how do you determine if a double major meets the requirements for both majors? |
Double majors are much easier to achieve than most advisors understand. Many are confused by the requirement that "Dual majors may be awarded as long as there is a minimum of 60 credits across both majors." The old language that there needed to be at least 30 non-overlapping credits in each major was especially confusing. Ultimately, the requirement can be met if the following conditions exist:
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| General Chemistry (125/126/127/128) Drop policies |
General Chemistry (125/126/127/128) Drop policies (Adopted by the General Chemistry Instructors November 2025) |
| Taking CHM 242 without CHM 241 |
Generally, we try to be as loose as we can with pre-reqs, but we don't typically allow CHM 242 without CHM 241. The concern here is that there are very important skills and concepts that are covered in CHM 241 lab that would not be covered in CHM 231. This becomes a safety issue if a student were to enter into CHM 242 without the proper training. For the same reason, we generally turn down students who request to take CHM 241 and 242 concurrently. (DAL 12/2024) |
| Automatic dropping of students who do not have pre-requisite |
If you give someone an pre-requisite override, they won't be warned or dropped later. Students get the warning/drop when they don't finish (or fail) a pre-requisite. Therefore, students need to get official transcripts from their other school only if they need it for their program. (Jennifer Glaab 7/20/18) |
| Replacing CHM 230/CHM 232 grades with CHM 234 |
In Fall 2025, we decided that if students take CHM 234 after having previously taken CHM 232 or CHM 230, the CHM 234 grade (and credit) will replace the older classes. Advisors asked if it would be possible to keep the older courses if a student requested it (for instance if they needed the credit to graduate). We asked the CHM 234 instructors to put the following statement on their syllabi: If a student previously took CHM 230 or CHM 232 and completes CHM 234, the CHM 234 grade will automatically replace the grade from the earlier course (CHM 230 or CHM 232). As with normal course repeats, the credit will only be awarded for the repeat class (CHM 234). In some cases, a student may wish to retain credit (and the grade) for both classesfor instance, if they need the credit to graduate. In such cases, the student can petition the Chemistry Department by contacting Prof. Dave Leonard [email protected] We inquired about how this would be implemented, and Bill Widmaier responded on 12/17: Were planning to replace the 230 and 232 grades with the 234 grades automatically&actually manually, but it will be automatic as far as the student is concerned. Regarding the retaining of credit for both classes, that is an unusual circumstance when courses are considered repeats, but not unheard of. Those requests would go through Cathy Buyarski in the Provosts Office for approval |
| What happens if transfer courses have good content match, but the number of credits doesn't match |
In the case of a course from another university that is a good match content-wise for a GVSU course, but has more credits than the GVSU course: the student gets credit for the GVSU class, and additional CHM General credits. In the case of a course from another university that is a good match content-wise for a GVSU course, but has fewer credits than the GVSU course: the student gets credit for the GVSU class on their transcript, but the class is listed with the lower number of credits. Example. A general chemistry class from Purdue (3 credits) was determined to be a good fit for CHM 116 (5 credits). The students transcript would list CHM 116 (3 credits). |
| Pathophysiology (BMS 310) as an elective for the BIC major? |
In the past we have awarded BIC elective credit for students who have completed BMS 310, as long as they have also passed BMS 250/251. (Dave Leonard, 7/2025) |
| Testing out and waiving classes: A-level exams (UK) |
In the UK, high school students can take a 2-year course covering General Chemistry and some Organic. This course-work includes extensive lab work. It is generally considered to be more difficult than AP Chemistry in the US. At the end of the 2 years, students take an exam, and earn a grade of A, B, C, D or NA (or F). After review of the materials and consultation with Prof. Derrick Thomas (BMS; went high school in Wales), Blair Miller and Dave Leonard determined that a grade of A, B, or C would be granted CHM 115 and CHM 116 at GVSUno lab notebook check required. This has only happened once since 2018(DAL 6/2024) |
| Can MTH 123 be used as a pre-requisite for CHM 116? |
MTH 123 is not an acceptable pre-requisite for CHM 116 (Debbie Herrington 8/2/2021) |